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IWI US now shipping Tavor TS12 shotgun

IWI has announced on their Facebook page that they are now shipping the Tavor TS12!

You may recall that this was delayed due to alleged issues with properly cycling weaker shotgun shells. Whether this is fixed will be an interesting question to answer. On the face of it, the TS12 is a compelling option for home defense: semi-auto, large magazine(s) that are easy to cycle, fully ambi (including ejection), and already set up for easy optics mounting. I am not a huge fan of the full-length trigger guard or cross-bar safety, but those are minor complaints on the whole.

Update on the IWI Tavor 7 and TS12

Courtesy of the gents from BurstReviews, there’s now some new first-hand info from SHOT Show on what happened with the Tavor 7 and TS12.

The TS12 couldn’t cycle 2 3/4″ shells correctly, and had to be sent back for rework. It is supposedly almost ready for prime time.

The Tavor 7 had accuracy issues (2.5 MOA being the stated number in this video). They are still working that out, with no ETA. That’s unfortunate, but probably a good decision given the X95’s problems in that regard.

No update on the Masada pistol, alas.

Update on the Tavor 7, TS12, Masada Ship Dates

IWI-US posted an update to their website today about the release dates for the Tavor 7 rifle, TS-12 shotgun, and Masada handgun:

TAVOR® 7 – Shipping to retailers beginning mid-July, with full-production quantities coming within 60-90 days. Initial offering will be limited to T716B (Black) with T716FDE (Flat-dark Earth) and T716ODG (OD-Green) coming in 2019.
TAVOR® TS12 Shotgun – Shipping to retailers beginning mid-fourth quarter. Initial offering will be limited to TS12B (Black) with TS12FDE (Flat-dark Earth) and TS12ODG (OD-Green) coming in 2019.
MASADAPistol – Full-production quantities to begin shipping to US retailers beginning in January 2019.

So, basically, we’ll see a bit of the Tavor 7 in a month, the TS12 around Thanksgiving, and everything else in 2019. This is not surprising, but it is still disappointing. Keep saving those shekels, I suppose.

Tavor TS12 Formally Announced

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IWI has formally announced the Tavor TS12 shotgun.

I got most of the details right in my previous post, but did get the magazine situation wrong. It appears that it’s using an SRM1216-style rotating magazine to pack in those 15 shotgun shells (5 per tube). As far as I can tell, you need to manually index the next tube when you run dry (appears there’s an unlock button at the front of the trigger guard), given the location of the magazine on the handguard. This is not exactly optimal, but still looks more user-friendly than the KSG or even the SRM1216.

Alas, this rotating tube (aka, revolving cylinder) makes it illegal in MD , so don’t expect a hands-on review in the near future.

Some other things I noticed:

  1. No built-in backup iron sights mentioned or obvious in the pictures. This is a bit of a shame, given how good the ones on the Tavor and X95 are.
  2. The safety is cross-bolt, which is a step backwards, IMHO.
  3. Not mentioned, but unless the pictures were mirrored, it’s fully ambi. Ejection ports on both sides, controls on both sides, etc.
  4. The design seems to be much more one-piece than the Tavor rifles. Not a bad thing, but it explains why it’s cheaper. I could see this hitting the $1200 mark in the near future.
  5. It looks like they could put together a 20rd version without too much more design work… it would make it less comfy to hold, but that might be acceptable to some people.
  6. Reloading it looks like a giant PITA, which has always been a problem with tube-fed bullpup shotguns.

On the whole, it looks nice, but I’d personally prefer a 12ga version of the Tavor 7 that takes stick and drum mags. Still, I expect this to sell reasonably well for its price point.

IWI Masada; a Tavor Shotgun; what’s next in 2018?

So, first of all, happy Chanukah! This has been an amazing year for IWI, especially for their Galil ACE rifles, which has been picking up more and more positive press.

I’ve been remiss in posting due to real life circumstances, but wanted to chime in on a couple of bits of news.

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The IWI Masada was announced in early November. This is an interesting gun in that it’s the first “real” weapon that IWI has announced using their US subsidiary, versus the Israeli company. This may be indicative of a greater shift by IWI to focusing on the US market, which wouldn’t be a bad move for them. It also supports the theory that IWI probably terminated the OEM relationship with Magnum Research, and not the other way around.

The gun itself is pretty nice, and is a “greatest hits” sort of deal:

  1. P320-esque serialized fire control module
  2. Sig-style take-down lever
  3. P30-esque front accessory rail

It is unclear whether it’s using proprietary magazines or if they’re CZ-75 mags and the floorplate is just weird-looking. IWI also didn’t include an optic mount for the slide, ala the Glock MOS, but that may be coming later.

After the break… the Tavor shotgun and 2018.

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